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relentless
01-11-2006, 07:17 PM
MTV: Jay-Z's been in a top position over there at Def Jam for about a year, and he's your friend. Couldn't he have stepped in and done something?

Gotti: Of course Jay is my man. Of course he was trying to ride for me and of course Jay was trying to help his boy out. But Jay couldn't do nothing for me, it was over his head. Truth be told, L.A. Reid may have wanted me to be president along with Jay or something. ... L.A. tried his hardest. L.A. kept going back to them like, "Listen, he's not guilty yet." L.A. was going in there trying. This is the answer I heard every time: "Irv, corporate said we can't do anything for you. I'm gonna try again, though." So Hov gets in there. At this point, they're not issuing me one check, they're not giving a dime. So I tell Hov, "I'm a producer that demanded $250,000 a track. I make great records." I'm like, "Yo, can I produce? Let me do a song deal. You can stick me with whatever artist you want." [Jay says,] "That should work, yeah, I'll try that." A day later, "Gotti, you won't believe this, they said I can't enter in any new agreement with your name on it. I cannot do it, period. It's over my head."

MTV: So how did you survive with no money coming in?

Gotti: I had a lot of money and it slowly went. You've got your monthly bills, I take care of my entire family. It's a true testament to how much money I did have that I'm still in this house. But they took every dime, I don't have it anymore. To go back, when you look at the case, it was a million dollar money-laundering charge. Universal cut Supreme a check for $500,000. That check rightfully made them my co-defendants. I didn't give Supreme that $500,000, the Universal Music Group did. Why weren't they my co-defendants? I'll explain to you. The government went to their attorneys and said, "Either you're gonna join forces with us in his demise, or we're going to bring you in that courtroom and destroy you." The UMG made a decision to destroy me. How they did that: not issuing me any checks, kicking me out of the building and making life hard. They cut their deal with the government, like the snitches up there [on the stand]. Their deal was my demise.

MTV: Some are saying it's over for the Inc. now.

Gotti: People like to talk about Ja and Ashanti and their demise. They were declining. Last album, Ja had "Wonderful" and "New York." "Wonderful" was a top-five record on the Billboard Hot 100. And the coup de grâce was that we had one of the biggest records to come out of New York at the same time. "Neeewwww York!" Those records come out at the same time and dudes can't move them like how he moves them? I smell a rat. I smell a Universal Music Group rat who knew they were letting me go, "So I'm not letting him get hot. Irv, who I know gets busy, is gonna leave here with two acts that are scorching hot? Oh no." Then I come with Ashanti — who's in the record books for selling over 400,000 copies her first week — and I can't get what I normally need with Ashanti. They didn't even [push hard] at top 40 [radio] with "Only U." I smell rats all over the system. Not in the Island Def Jam system, but it's above their heads. I don't smell rats with Jay, L.A. Reid, Steve Bartels — those guys are my friends and I love them. It was corporate heads. "Shut them down, make it look like it's declining."

MTV: So where do you go now?

Gotti: They're all calling. I've got an open mind, and I'm listening to everybody. The most important thing to me is after being through everything I've been through, I want somebody that I feel genuinely cares about me and if I went through hard times won't necessarily ride with me but they'll still say, "Hello, Irv." Then I want some cash. I'm looking for good people that want to win and I'll blend in with them and be a monster, monster force.

MTV: With everything you went through, did you ever think about calling it quits and moving on to something besides music?

Gotti: This is in me. I'm DJ Irv. When I say I'm DJ Irv, I was a 12-year-old kid on the turntables and would literally cut [Run-DMC's] "Sucker M.C.'s" for four hours. What I'm explaining to you is a love of music. If you can cut one record for four hours, you have genuine love of music. I don't think you can stop that person, because he would do it for free. That person would go in the studio and loves genuinely being a part of the magical chemistry of making a record. You can only stop a person who's in it for reasons other than the genuine love.

MTV: Do you ever see the label rising back to the level it once was?

Gotti: I definitely see us taking it back to a high level. I see coming back and delivering records, and if Ja was to come back and sell another 5, 6 million records, that would be immortality. It would be like I survived everything. It would be a crazy thing. Ashanti and all the stuff people say, she comes back and smashes them. Yeah, I think it's gonna happen. Lloyd is the next thing in R&B. I've got some new people. I wanna mix my stable and blend it all together. Hip-hop is a funny thing. What hip-hop does is take said individual and build them up and put them on a pedestal. While they're on the pedestal, "Yeah! Yeah!" Then they shoot you right up off of that pedestal. When you're off that pedestal is when they're looking at you to see what you're gonna do. If you come out of that, you get the "Quan," a royalness they put on you like, "He's unstoppable and that's our guy." A few people have gotten that — Dr. Dre, easily the best producer in the game. I know he's with the other side, but I can't lie. Every word is the truth, and the truth is he gets busy. Pac knocked him off that pedestal. When Pac was riding on him, he went through a little tough time when he left Death Row. He came back, "Been there, done that." ... He came back with that Chronic [2001] album. If you say something bad about that dude, it's like ...

MTV: Blasphemy.

Gotti: Nas came with "F--- Jay-Z" and they rode with him. I remember Jay having a conversation with me like, "When I'm on the street, people are like, 'F Jay-Z!' " He had the thing with [record executive Lance] "Un" [Rivera], it was a shaky time for him. A lot of people said he lost that battle [to Nas], they said Nas knocked the coolness off him. Then [Jay] came back, dropped them records. You say something bad about Jay now, people gonna look at you like, "What's wrong with you? Blasphemy!" What I told my whole crew is we're chasing immortality now. Our enemy [50 Cent] rising to fame and being the number one rapper, riding on us and smashing us — we're down in the dumps but still swinging. If we come up out of that in 2006 and we still sell records, if somebody says something bad about the Inc., "Blasphemy!" You can put me through whatever, I want that. More than money, I want people to remember my name and what I've done. I want hip-hop to embrace me and remember me. I'mma go all out trying to get it.

mtv.com

hip_hop_gab
01-11-2006, 07:55 PM
yes murder inc will be on top again

Westside
01-11-2006, 08:39 PM
aight new artist's :)

VegasOner
01-11-2006, 09:16 PM
Great Interview, WHo Do u think could possibly be the two people in Universal that he is talking about??

relentless
01-11-2006, 09:34 PM
jimmy iovine is one. i dunno bout the second person, chris lighty maybe.

Lexx_Luciano
01-12-2006, 12:24 AM
Jimmy Iovine & 50 snitch "Mr. telescope"

Murda
01-12-2006, 03:23 AM
thx for posting...good lucks!!

mfb
01-12-2006, 06:05 AM
good read..

Blackdove
01-12-2006, 07:50 AM
nice read..irv sounds confident again..hopefully he will get the right deal this time.

Murda
01-12-2006, 08:16 AM
irv: "Lloyd is the next thing in R&B" :cool:

the inc is back in 2006

da_inc_05
01-12-2006, 09:25 AM
irv got some tricks up his sleeeeeeeeveeeeeeee lol.... i hope they try to find a new home by mid feb. so we can get dis ball rollin ya feel me

sniper
01-12-2006, 10:34 AM
chea chea chea chea

:ninja:

Rolfsma
01-12-2006, 10:36 AM
Good interview, thanks for posting. Irv getting hard at Universal, and he sounds confident, that's good.

S3M1R
01-12-2006, 11:45 AM
I guess they are going to Warner fo sho, coz he was saying good shit about the dude of Warner and how they showed love to eachother.

Propz on the interview man!
Lookin' good!

Baja_Ma_Dee
01-12-2006, 11:46 AM
He snitched on Lance "Un" Rivera. What a bitch Chris Lighty "Fuck Irv Gotti?" We'll fuck him too. Chris can eat a dick-up till he hick-ups

Why is Gotti bringing up that old shit with UM & Jay-Z. It was staged. Jay-Z payed Un to pretend like they had beef so Jay-Z could stab him & look tough. It was a publicity stunt.

Jay-Z even admited to it.

Why is Gotti bringing it up. Un, Chazz, Preme & Gotti are fam. They're behind the scenes.

Anyways good looking. Gotti doing interviews is cool.

AdX
01-12-2006, 02:09 PM
he sounds angry... and it sounds genuine rather than promoting gangster

Lexx_Luciano
01-12-2006, 02:22 PM
As far as Universal kicking Irv out....I'm sure that's what Interscope did with Suge while he was in jail. No wonder Suge is going with Warners too because they seem more respectable than the corporate peeps in Universal.

VegasOner
01-12-2006, 02:53 PM
I Knnow For sure Its not Jimmy Ivone or Chirs Lighty becuase Irv said that the two nameless men turned on him during the trial, and he said that he use to trust them, and from what I know Irv has never been cool with Jimmy or Chris Lighty,

I think He might be talking about Russel Simons, because he when he gave everybody props that helped him threw the trial in the interview, he nevr said Russells name

Dermo
01-12-2006, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by VegasOner
I Knnow For sure Its not Jimmy Ivone or Chirs Lighty becuase Irv said that the two nameless men turned on him during the trial, and he said that he use to trust them, and from what I know Irv has never been cool with Jimmy or Chris Lighty,

I think He might be talking about Russel Simons, because he when he gave everybody props that helped him threw the trial in the interview, he nevr said Russells name

nah its not russel its the two main dudes from universal, simmons diesnt have anything to do with universal, its not jimmy or chris either. its the head of universal who is best freinds with jimmy and sum1 else inportant chris lighty isnt a important person he doesnt have anything t odo wit universal hes just violater

GUNS
01-12-2006, 04:10 PM
Universal Music is a Money Eating Company ...offcourse they would suport there best selling artist (Eminem , 50 Cent , G Unit )


lol dumb ass ppl ...........it will be the death for Universal

outlaw
01-12-2006, 04:33 PM
props for that

Murda
01-12-2006, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by GUNS
Universal Music is a Money Eating Company ...offcourse they would suport there best selling artist (Eminem , 50 Cent , G Unit )


lol dumb ass ppl ...........it will be the death for Universal

lol...but universal is great.

zemben
01-12-2006, 06:07 PM
It can never be Russell, Russell is the MAN!!! He's the one who trusted Irv in the 1st place, if it wasnt for him, there wouldnt be no The Inc...

Russell is too street to be in favor of the gov and so is Lyor Cohen

theincfan01
01-12-2006, 06:32 PM
good readin'... propz for postin'...it sounds like irv is back to himself again the inc is back

GUNS
01-13-2006, 10:15 AM
i pray that warner music will buy Island/DefJam someday ...so they wont have to be @ snitch ass Universal

k_kiss
01-13-2006, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by zemben
It can never be Russell, Russell is the MAN!!! He's the one who trusted Irv in the 1st place, if it wasnt for him, there wouldnt be no The Inc...

Russell is too street to be in favor of the gov and so is Lyor Cohen

real talk...Lyors da man

Murda
01-13-2006, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by k_kiss

Originally posted by zemben
It can never be Russell, Russell is the MAN!!! He's the one who trusted Irv in the 1st place, if it wasnt for him, there wouldnt be no The Inc...

Russell is too street to be in favor of the gov and so is Lyor Cohen

real talk...Lyors da man

rusell is better,no?

schthi3
01-14-2006, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by relentless27
Dr. Dre, easily the best producer in the game. I know he's with the other side, but I can't lie. Every word is the truth, and the truth is he gets busy. Pac knocked him off that pedestal. When Pac was riding on him, he went through a little tough time when he left Death Row. He came back, "Been there, done that." ... He came back with that Chronic [2001] album. If you say something bad about that dude, it's like ...

mtv.com

I'm talkin' 'bout faggot ass gay Dre young,
an' she told me all about how ya used ta take transvestites home,
an' occasionally wear thongs.

wasnt Ja talking about the doc??? :huh:

GUNS
01-14-2006, 09:41 AM
Russell Simons is one of the few biz ppl i like ...you got a lot of them corperate ppl who thinks only about money , cash n ho's (lol....sorry i had a jay z song in my mind when i typ'd this)


Lyor Cohen , Kevin Liles , Edgar Bronfman JR (Owner N President of Warner Music) are all fair ppl ......fuck Nazi Universal ....

G-Money
01-14-2006, 02:51 PM
propz for the article... yerah i'm feelin Gotti... I think 2006 could be BIG for the INC...

Rolfsma
01-14-2006, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by schthi3

Originally posted by relentless27
Dr. Dre, easily the best producer in the game. I know he's with the other side, but I can't lie. Every word is the truth, and the truth is he gets busy. Pac knocked him off that pedestal. When Pac was riding on him, he went through a little tough time when he left Death Row. He came back, "Been there, done that." ... He came back with that Chronic [2001] album. If you say something bad about that dude, it's like ...

mtv.com

I'm talkin' 'bout faggot ass gay Dre young,
an' she told me all about how ya used ta take transvestites home,
an' occasionally wear thongs.

wasnt Ja talking about the doc??? :huh:

Yeah, Ja's talking about Dre. But Irv means something bad about him being dissed by example Pac and coming back on top of the game. Ja just goes at Dre saying he's gay and shit, some regular diss shit.

Cheddar
01-14-2006, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Rolfsma

Originally posted by schthi3

Originally posted by relentless27
Dr. Dre, easily the best producer in the game. I know he's with the other side, but I can't lie. Every word is the truth, and the truth is he gets busy. Pac knocked him off that pedestal. When Pac was riding on him, he went through a little tough time when he left Death Row. He came back, "Been there, done that." ... He came back with that Chronic [2001] album. If you say something bad about that dude, it's like ...

mtv.com

I'm talkin' 'bout faggot ass gay Dre young,
an' she told me all about how ya used ta take transvestites home,
an' occasionally wear thongs.

wasnt Ja talking about the doc??? :huh:

Yeah, Ja's talking about Dre. But Irv means something bad about him being dissed by example Pac and coming back on top of the game. Ja just goes at Dre saying he's gay and shit, some regular diss shit.
well, not only cause it's regular... the shit leads to Eazy provin Dre being a lil homo-ish, and that's fo sho. maybe that leads to thetruth!

liltezr13
01-16-2006, 03:51 AM
Murder Inc will rise to the top once again, in the name of the lord,AMEN

I-N-C 2006
01-16-2006, 10:53 AM
Originally posted by liltezr13
Murder Inc will rise to the top once again, in the name of the lord,AMEN

it is not necessary to say, we know that it is going to happen :biggrin: :cool: